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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2019 9:07:48 GMT -6
Is Scooter Gennett now the highest paid player in the league??? LOL.
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Post by metsgm on Mar 1, 2019 15:07:49 GMT -6
What are the best and worst contracts of this free agency period?
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Post by Cleveland GM (David) on Mar 1, 2019 15:34:06 GMT -6
I liked 2B Jonathan Villar @ $5,000,000 (2022) - Starting 2B, age 27, Puts up respectable stats
While a good player, 2B Scooter Gennett @ $18,000,000 (2022), was a shocker! - being paid more than Scherzer & Trout
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Post by San Francisco GM (G-funk) on Mar 1, 2019 20:13:56 GMT -6
There aren’t many “good deals” in FA especially at top of market. Everyone overpriced... you just gotta hope you picked good players.
I like Jesse Chavez at 800k. Cody Allen at 10 seems risky. Expecting three more years of Molina at 6.9 is risky though I almost did it myself. Late free agency contracts are always bloated and there are plenty of those this year too. Gennett expensive but also very good. I don’t know about the winners cap situation but could be ok since he’s a good contributor.
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Post by Mariners GM (Tyler) on Mar 11, 2019 14:13:29 GMT -6
To be fair I'm hoping for two more years of good production just had to pay for three. Really thought I would get him cheaper until we got in a bidding war. And as Gennett's previous owner it was tough to see him go, but he could also easily fall right back off a cliff. No way I could allocate almost 20% of my team's budget to one player.
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Post by Mariners GM (Tyler) on Mar 3, 2020 10:33:51 GMT -6
So what do we think about this years FA contracts? I can't help but think this Suarez contract is gonna be a big mistake. I mean, I know the guy hit bombs last year and the lineup is poised to be much improved this year. I could never spend 25% of my team budget on one player. Maybe that's just me but it seems far too steep a price to pay.
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Post by Cleveland GM (David) on Mar 3, 2020 11:06:52 GMT -6
Free agency isn't for the timid - lol. I did not pick up a free agent this year.
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Post by rushmore (LAA) on Mar 3, 2020 11:22:47 GMT -6
Free agents are expensive in this league because the resigns are cheap - there's definitely a weird adjustment going on. I think the top tier resigns should top out at 20M instead of 14M. That would bring the inflation in free agency down. Whenever theres 2 or 3 teams needing a starter at an infield position and there is only one starter out there...it turns into a shit show. You get contracts like Gennett and Suarez. Number three starting pitchers also get upwards for 4 years/ 60 mill.
You gotta just hope they are OK the first few years the guys you sign don't crap out.
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Post by rushmore (LAA) on Mar 3, 2020 11:27:25 GMT -6
another solution is to lower the amount of resigns from 4 to 2. Great players just never see free agency. Teams retain them at a relative bargain to their cap. So you have these mid-tier guys being way overpaid in regular FA.
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Post by Braves GM - James on Mar 3, 2020 12:00:32 GMT -6
I pretty much agree here. The cheapness of resigns leads to guys who actually make it into Free Agency being severely overpriced. Could the Suarez contract turn into a bust? Certainly, but I think that given the way the free agent market sits here, I wouldn't consider him to be a severe overpay at 24 million.
If he helps me to a championship in the next couple of years, I'll happily eat the dead money on the deal at the end of it if his production falls off.
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Post by Mariners GM (Tyler) on Mar 3, 2020 12:32:18 GMT -6
I totally disagree. I don't think you have to pay ridiculous amounts for Free Agents a lot of people just do. When the CAP is 100M paying even 10% of that on one guy is pricey. Sure that's a strategy you can have but I don't think paying $18M a year for Scooter Gennett is ever a good idea. I wouldn't have payed $18M a year for Suarez. Maybe we are just different and that is fine. But I'll stick to searching for bargains and managing CAP that way.
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Post by rushmore (LAA) on Mar 3, 2020 15:36:31 GMT -6
Think about the economics of what you just said. You have 4 resigns at about 10 million per = 40 million. Then you have a bunch of rookie contracts to round out your roster, lets say conservatively your cap is now at 50M. You try to fill your remaining holes in FA.... there is 50 mill in cap to spend. You can see why the economics allow GMs to start bidding upwards of 20 million on a mid-tier FA to improve their team and still be flush with cash.
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Post by rushmore (LAA) on Mar 3, 2020 15:39:46 GMT -6
I'm not saying that the league is bad, or that we are in a terrible predicament. im just saying the league economics makes these contracts normal. You have to almost separate what you're seeing in a resign contract from what you're seeing in open free agency. If the goal is to normalize contracts across the board (which I'm not saying we absolutely have to) - then I think you restrict the number of resigns further or make them more expensive. I think it would make the league better, just more easy to judge value.
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Post by Mariners GM (Tyler) on Mar 3, 2020 20:48:07 GMT -6
But most of these contracts are 4 years. So maybe once every four years you are flush with cash. Or more often if you dump your bad contracts on other teams in exchange for pics. But I personally have never even spent 10 Mil on a FA I don't think. It's just not worth it when there are other values to be found. Just my personal opinion of course and the people throwing around big money are what makes it possible for me to find those values in the first place. I just don't think you can win this league by just throwing money at FA. You have to hit on your draft picks and make the right trades. If you don't the rookie contracts on your roster are worthless with no production.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2020 7:48:04 GMT -6
If we lose 2 Re-sign tags I would leave the league. IMO the point is to build your team for depth through other means other than Free Agency including Draft and trades. By taking away 2 Re-sign tags you virtually turn this league much closer to a redraft league where there are more Free Agents every year and more teams with holes to fill. This would create more bidding wars IMO. If you plan and build properly you will never have to shell out 24% of your cap for one player. I do agree, however, that the resign Max Salary should prob be updated each off-season. Maybe to adjust for the max positional contracts in the league.
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